anonymous
It's true I have the same problem with doc on symfony PHP framework : Google always returns results about the 1.0 version from the official site instead of the more recent 1.4.

However I find that Google shows almost everytime more relevant results when searching for very specific info.
Where DDG really shines is on the presentation level for general queries, for very specific stuff it does not (yet ;) ).
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 7 years and 11 months ago Link

yegg
It really seems to be hit or miss depending on whether I can detect internal topics. When I can, I think the specific results are better. Anyway, I'd appreciate you sending me examples when you think it is obviously worse.
posted by yegg Staff7 years and 11 months ago Link
anonymous
(I'm the guy from the previous post, I just registered)

I remember doing a query on your search engine and it struck me when comparing that Google was better because it "understood" my query and showed results with different keywords with the same meaning where DDG tried to search exactly for the keywords I entered but showed less relevant results (because the keywords were rare I think). Can't remember the exact query though.

Maybe that's because you are using BOSS and Bing API, if you check this blind test : http://blindsearch.fejus.com/ Google is always the best in my opinion.

Next time I find a problem like that, I will add it to a list and send you the list when I have 5-10 "difficult" queries.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 7 years and 11 months ago Link
anonymous
I registered but forgot to login. :D
posted by [Old Forum eet-fuk] • 7 years and 11 months ago Link
yegg
Thx. I actually layer a lot on top of Boss/Bing/etc in the area of "understanding" your query more. But it is totally case by case, so please share them when they come up.
posted by yegg Staff7 years and 11 months ago Link
anonymous
Alright, 2 queries I found today where I think Google beats DDG. They are not terrible DDG failure, but they are the reason why I still use Google.
Note that I'm using the option to boost French results in DDG, which in fact seems to boost c*** results.

- fav4.org  
It's a site to be used as a home page, the old URL is http://fav4.org/, now it redirects to http://myfav.es/. Typing the site name should bring me this site first in the results, Google does it, DDG does it too, but not with the "boost french results option" and shows me a Youtube video (in English !) first. The fact that it does not appear first is annoying because I often type in my Firefox url bar : d /keyword to have the first more relevant result. I generally don't care about french results because 95% of the queries I make are developer stuff, but sometimes I search with french words, and I think Google does a more subtle boost of local results here.

- symfony 1.4 gentle view  
I was looking for documentation on the symfony PHP framework (it's a MVC framework and I was looking for the view part) and remembered that the tutorial (available both online and as a book on Amazon) was called "A gentle introduction ...", the page I'm looking for (http://www.symfony-project.org/gentle-introduction/1_4/en/07-Inside-the-View-Layer) is third in the Google results, and does not appear on the DDG result page.

Hope that helps, I will send you more queries where I think Google is better than DDG if you want.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 7 years and 11 months ago Link
anonymous
Zoho sucks, I have to switch browser to post here as the form does not work on Minefield 4.0b4pre, and each time I forgot to re-login...
posted by [Old Forum eet-fuk] • 7 years and 11 months ago Link