Tirifto
Neither can be trusted, nor is it a good practice to use them. That is simply because neither of them is free software. Basically, it means that the code cannot be studied, so they cannot be trusted, and they restrict the user's freedom, so they are not very ethical, either.

First of all, let me say that Chrome is also non-free software, and it is known to spy on it's users (Which is not surprising, seeing as it belongs to Google). The only popular free browser is Mozilla Firefox, so you might want to use that. If not, you can try others, like Midori. And, of course, for about the best privacy you can get, use Tor Browser. But Firefox with some add-ons should do for ordinary browsing.

If you need a password manager, you can try KeePass.

If you want to browse safely, you should check out Disconnect, Privacy Badger, HTTPS Everywhere and uBlock.

I got the info about add-ons from Prism Break. It's a website listing many good alternatives to non-free and dangerous software. It's not perfect, but you can find some nice things there.

I hope my comment was able to help you.
Stay free, stay safe.
posted by Tirifto 3 years and 9 months ago Link

buckeye
you said: First of all, let me say that Chrome is also non-free software, and it is known to spy on it's users (Which is not surprising, seeing as it belongs to Google). The only popular free browser is Mozilla Firefox, so you might want to use that. If not, you can try others, like Midori. And, of course, for about the best privacy you can get, use Tor Browser. But Firefox with some add-ons should do for ordinary browsing.

while it is true that chrome is part of the giant privacy abusing and data sucking empire that is google, chrome is actually free because it doesn't cost anything (free) and is open source so that anyone can download and modify then compile the code as they see fit (free)

there are several recompiles of chrome that have the tracking junk removed, srware iron comes to mind, probably others as well
posted by buckeye 3 years and 9 months ago Link
Tirifto
Google Chrome is freeware, not free softfware. It can be used for free, but it does not respect your freedom and is NOT open source, either.

Chrome is mostly based on a project called "Chromium". Chromium is libre software, but Chrome is not.

SRWare Iron is a browser based on Chromium, claiming to fix the privacy and security issues. In reality, however, SRWare Iron is non-libre software. That means it can't be trusted, AND, in my personal opinion, it is also suspicious.
(If you take a free and open code and remove privacy-violating parts of it, why would you keep the code from public?)

Finally, it doesn't really matter what the software is based on. What matters is if it's libre (free as in freedom) and if you trust it.

Oh and by the way, "open source" does not mean anyone can download and modify the code (legally). Here's an article on the difference between "free" and "open source".
posted by Tirifto 3 years and 9 months ago Link
buckeye
you are correct re Chromium- i shouldnt type responses when i am rushed

SRWare used to post their source and still have the links on their web site but they seem to be incorrectly linked - hard to know if that is intentional or not

The source that you provided re: open source is a biased source and their opinion is not the final word and in general open source is a program in which the source code is available for download for use and/or modification from its original design

Also its impossible to completely use free software by whatever definition you choose - i do agree that it is important to trust the software that you use but that does not mean that it has to be free
posted by buckeye 3 years and 9 months ago Link
Tirifto
I also remember Iron being open source, but now Wikipedia and others list is as "Proprietary". If it's not intentional, then I hope they fix it soon. Feature-wise, Chromium is a decent browser :)

About the "free vs open-source" thing, that was a bad definition from me. You are right that the terms are not standardized and people interpret them differently. It's true that "open source" is usually used for software that respects your freedom.

For people, they usually have the same meaning and you can use whichever you wish. But it's also true that "open source" stresses the fact that the code is open, while "free" stresses the fact that the program respects your freedom. Even if they have are interpreted the same way now, they leave a different impression. Basically, 'alll libre software has open code, but not all open code is libre'. I think that freedom is very important and we should stress that, so it's better to use the terms "free" or "libre".

(I addressed using completely free software in my other reply in this thread, but basically: It should be free whenever it can be.)
posted by Tirifto 3 years and 9 months ago Link
JSmith123963
Is 'epic browser' a good alternative browser to 'Google Chrome'?
posted by JSmith123963 3 years and 9 months ago Link
Tirifto
It's a proprietary browser based on Chromium. That means it's probably going to be similar to Chrome, but with some additional features.

So no, I don't think it's a good alternative. At least if your primary concern is privacy. Perhaps you can have a look at QupZilla? Despite it's name, it is NOT based on Mozilla Firefox. It uses WebKit, so it's actually closer to Chromium. I don't think it offers a lot of pro-privacy features, but it's probably more private than Chrome & co.
posted by Tirifto 3 years and 9 months ago Link
ddg.ps01
Is "Comodo Dragon" also a bad alternative?
posted by ddg.ps01 3 years and 9 months ago Link