FOSS 2011 donation nominations

yegg Staff yegg
Created: 6 years and 4 months ago
Like last year, we're donating 10% of 2011 gross revenue to FOSS related projects. The final numbers aren't in, but it should be a much more substantial number this time (on the order of $10K).

Also like last year, half of it will be directed by the company and half of it will be directed by you, the DuckDuckGo community. Last time we ended up doing a theme of security and privacy, which we could re-do or go in another direction.

In any case, we'd love your nominations and suggestions. There were some already made on the other thread, which I'm re-printing here:


How about ReactOS? It's an open source operating system that aims to be binary-compatible with Windows. Sadly, due to lack of funds, they haven't gotten as far as they'd like to.
I would like to nominate Diaspora* http://diasporafoundation.org 

I nominate the Tor Project again this year because of stuff like this 28c3 talk. If "no" because they got kickbacks last year (or because they get some substantial support from the U.S.A. State Dept and other spooks) then I nominate The I2P Project which is a competing network that hasn't gotten the press attention or cash/code contribution that Tor receives. I still believe Tor is the "right" choice. Only offer an alternative should they not be allowed back to back funding two years in a row.

This is particularly important because people are risking their lives and being killed out there for using the network to retrieve and disseminate information. That's what search engines are all about. Information.

Aside from The Network™, client-side document security/privacy is important too. So I also nominateTrueCrypt because they pretty much solved this problem (and then some!) and they are doing it gratis. (Plus they didn't get any cash last year ;)

Maybe a Mod (im looking at you green since you bumped it ;)  should fork this thread and move the posts from this year into that one lest this one's size becomes unruly.
 




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yegg
When making this thread I saw a checkbox to notify members, and I checked it. I think that had the effect of sending out an email to everyone. FYI -- that's why you got one (if you did).
posted by yegg Staff6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
I'd like to nominate Trisquel (https://trisquel.info/en).  It's a fully free (as in speech) GNU/Linux distribution that's based on Ubuntu.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
What is FOSS?
newbie here...
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
FOSS means Free and Open Source Software
posted by [Old Forum atomic1fire] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
donate to Diaspora* please ! and work together to built some cool features like #tag results ; )
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
I would like to nominate the Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE). A non-profit organisation dedicated to the furthering of Free Software, and the promotion of freedom in a emerging digital society. It work affects Free Software and freedom in the digital age all over the world (not only in Europe) through his dedicated work on all political levels from local countries to the EU and up to the United Nations.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
I would like to nominate the Tor Project as well because of how useful it is and how its ideals of privacy and security match those of DDG.

Keeping in the same vein, TAILS could really do with some funding given that they are trying to make TAILS bootable from USB (already possible, but not easy by any means).

EFF are always looking for donations and I feel that their work in developing HTTPS Everywhere (a Firefox addon) justifies the donation if nothing else.

Truecrypt and I2P have been mentioned, I agree that those should be supported. Just my 2 cents :)
posted by [Old Forum scepticrail] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
OpenBSD/OpenSSH
TOR
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
Diasporaproject was a diasapointment :(

They asked for money and got at least 100x what they had planned for yet development actually slowed down!

Drug addled + huge funding boost = longer development cycle.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
I nominate LuaJIT. Its only developer Mike Pall lives from sponsorship: http://luajit.org/sponsors.html

LuaJIT is the fastest dynamic language implementation I know. It is a source of inspiration for other JIT implementations, especially JavaScript virtual machines.

The LuaJIT FFI library is also the most advanced I know. It can basically parse C headers and allow you to call library functions with little effort. It also allows you to use native C data types in Lua.

Sadly few people are interested in LuaJIT, because few people code in Lua. But regardless of whether you do or not, odds are that the techniques used in LuaJIT will be used in other dynamic languages implementations in the next few years (it has already begun with eg. PyPy, V8...).
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
I nominate Linux Mint. A very successful Linux distribution with the user, new and experienced as their focus. They also offer DDG as search in installed browsers. They rely on donations to be able to develop their products and I know a contribution from DDG will be put to good use benefiting users all over the world.
posted by [Old Forum cdysthe] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
TOR project for me too. What they do is way more important than having another handful of GNU/Linux distributions (just my opinion, no offense) and supporting their cause makes a lot of sense from a DDG approach to privacy point of view.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
Tor
edit:
TrueCrypt ( this soft is the BOMB :)
posted by [Old Forum tosho] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
  • The GNU project (via the FSF), because they build great tools for all kinds of use cases
  • The Linux Foundation for funding development of GNU/Linux
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
The Linux Foundation is concerned only with the development of the kernel Linux, not GNU.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
I would like to see a portion of the donations go to either:
posted by [Old Forum octoquad] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
  • ReactOS
  • TOR
  • TrueCrypt
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
NetBSD
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
I should nominate a, "very long time coming - but massive potential project" OMV!

OMV stands for OpenMediaVault See here www.openmediavault.org

Basically, this project has been a single-handed project for much of its early development by Volker Theile.

A summary of what OMV aims are, is captured here from the website:

"OpenMediaVault is the next generation network attached storage (NAS) solution based on Debian Linux. It contains services like SSH, (S)FTP, SMB/CIFS, DAAP media server, RSync, BitTorrent client and many more. Thanks to the modular design of the framework it can be enhanced via plugins.
OpenMediaVault is primarily designed to be used in home environments or small home offices, but is not limited to those scenarios. It is a simple and easy to use out-of-the-box solution that will allow everyone to install and administrate a Network Attached Storage without deeper knowledge."

For those of us used to a great Open Source NAS system - we grew up on Freenas. This project however aims to take NAS to the next level - by basing the core of the system on Debian, rather than Freenas's use of FreeBSD. The potential for further development is massive and the community around OMV is very active in terms of testing and developing future plugins.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
I should nominate a, "very long time coming - but massive potential project" OMV!

OMV stands for OpenMediaVault See here www.openmediavault.org

Basically, this project has been a single-handed project for much of its early development by Volker Theile.

A summary of what OMV aims are, is captured here from the website:

"OpenMediaVault is the next generation network attached storage (NAS) solution based on Debian Linux. It contains services like SSH, (S)FTP, SMB/CIFS, DAAP media server, RSync, BitTorrent client and many more. Thanks to the modular design of the framework it can be enhanced via plugins.
OpenMediaVault is primarily designed to be used in home environments or small home offices, but is not limited to those scenarios. It is a simple and easy to use out-of-the-box solution that will allow everyone to install and administrate a Network Attached Storage without deeper knowledge."

For those of us used to a great Open Source NAS system - we grew up on Freenas. This project however aims to take NAS to the next level - by basing the core of the system on Debian, rather than Freenas's use of FreeBSD. The potential for further development is massive and the community around OMV is very active in terms of testing and developing future plugins.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
I'd like to say that TOR and Mozilla could be, just for the sake of privacy.

I don't see any benefit giving funds to ReactOS; would be better (IMHO) giving it to Wine.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
Your post might be more meaningful to us, if you told us what FOSS stands for. For example, the acronym dictionary has 54 meanings for the acronym FOSS, 12 of them recent, and 42 more not recently used. How would we know which one you meant? But if I had to guess, I would guess that you meant Free and Open Source Software.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
dashesy
I would say EFF,it is the free internet I would like my kids to have for the years to come.
posted by dashesy 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
I nominate Diaspora* (http://diasporafoundation.org).

It's open source and community driven - and the only real federated alternative to social networking.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
You could consider donations :

sparkleshare http://sparkleshare.org/ (opensource dropbox alternative)
OwnCloud (opensource dropbox & google calendar alternative) http://owncloud.org/
Clipperz (open source online password manager) https://www.clipperz.com/beta/#
NoScript (well-known Firefox security add-on)

I agree with EFF, TOR, FSF... there are so many projetcs that deserve our support!

Cheers,
Eric
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
Agree that donating to Wine would be better than ReactOS.

And how about CyanogenMod? Especially if they add DDG as an optional search engine (hint hint). They also strip junk like CarrierIQ, and allow you to strip permissions from apps, for the privacy junkies.
posted by [Old Forum notriddle] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
I'd like to nominate OneSwarm http://www.oneswarm.org/ for it's contribution to privacy preserving p2p. 
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
I'm against all of these donations towards encryption, darknets.. I mean privacy and security are great but projects that are hitting the mainstream would be more effective then say: crytp, tor. Instead projects like diaspora, dasycha.in, friendica these sorts of projects that are attempting to decentralize the web rather then float under the radar seem more important.

So a nice startup that is focusing on decentralization wins my vote (if it counts)
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
I'm against all of these donations towards encryption, darknets.. I mean privacy and security are great but projects that are hitting the mainstream would be more effective then say: crytp, tor. Instead projects like diaspora, dasycha.in, friendica these sorts of projects that are attempting to decentralize the web rather then float under the radar seem more important.

So a nice startup that is focusing on decentralization wins my vote (if it counts)
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
Encryption has been mainstream since Zimmerman won his holy war in the 90s. Log into your bank account with a plain text stream on a public network (the Internet being the largest public network) and let me know how that works out for you in the long run. Truecrypt is the defacto industry standard. Even my mother uses it to store her financial information.

"Darknets" are just proxies, so please rethink your terminology. They are more mainstream than you think, so using "darknet" as a pejorative is not intellectually honest. Besides, the federated services you speak of rely heavily on these so called "darknets" for their backends. That says nothing about the modern censorship and surveillance state, which is beyond the discussion in this thread.

The problem with the federated services you mentioned is not cash, code or publicity (which they have received in massive flurries), its mind share. And there is nothing we can do about that from here.

just my two cents. take them with a grain of sodium chloride.
--
David Pierce
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
Im going to go with OpenSSH (which is pretty critical to everything these days) and  Perl which I know is pretty critical to DDG http://donate.perlfoundation.org/
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
"Perl which I know is pretty critical to DDG http://donate.perlfoundation.org/" <-- This. One thousant times, this.
posted by [Old Forum gryllida] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
Promote data portability project

Unhosted: http://unhosted.org/
(promo for Unhosted Libre Office: http://vimeo.com/21387223)
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
owncloud is supposed to be Unhosted-compatible
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
Using the Security Theme I would second the ideas of:
TOR
TruCrypt

Using a general computer related theme I would second the idea of:
Wine

I was thinking we could donate to an open source web browser dedicated to internet security and privacy. We could donate to Firefox, but I was hoping to find a web browser completely dedicated to internet security and privacy. Surely there is one out there, that I am totally missing. Firefox does take measures in this direction, but I don't think that this is their main purpose.
posted by [Old Forum bee.keeper] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
Wine already gets financial and commercial support from their parent company's sales of Crossover. Several distros (such as Canonical's Ubuntu) have begun pushing the commercial version pretty heavily lately in their stores. A lot of the FLOSS projects are backed by successful commercial entities to some extent. I think that should play heavily in decisions here.

Mozilla makes all their tens of millions (or at least a majority) from revenue agreements with Google and others and the terms of their revenue share is not always -- read: almost never -- transparent to the broader community. They have also ignored calls to add alternatives such as DDG, ixquick and others to their default lists. I do not believe we should be donating money to for profit corporations such as Mozilla. Especially ones whom are at direct ideological and financial odds with DDG, and an unholy alliance with The Competition™.

--
David Pierce
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
Truecrypt is not free or open source (FSF and OSI definitions), Red Hat's lawyers also do not accept it.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems#TrueCrypt

The TrueCrypt software is under a poor license, which is not only non-free, but has the potential to be actively dangerous to end users or distributors who agree to it, opening them to possible legal action even if they abide by all of the licensing terms, depending on the intent of the upstream copyright holder. Fedora continues to make efforts to try to work with the TrueCrypt upstream to fix all of the issues in their license so that it can be considered Free, but have not yet been successful.

Fedora Suggests: Avoid this software entirely.

tcplay is an independently developed TrueCrypt-compatible program under the BSD license. A tcplay package has been submitted for package review for possible future inclusion in Fedora.


posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
These assumptions were made on a very old version of The License. They have since released a patch to this bug, as it were.

http://www.truecrypt.org/legal/license

FSF nor the OSI are the arbiter or Gods over all code. They're political organizations. The "CrimethInc. N©! license" is not FSF compatible either. Almost half of the Creative Commons Licenses would fail this test because they contain non-commercial, no deriv clauses. BSD while open and permissive, is still technically not "Free" according to the FSF zealots. "TrueCrypt-compatible" raises security concerns, much like the Debian SSL fiasco. TrueCrypt is "Open" and "Free" enough.
--
Pierce
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
The Free Software Foundation considers the BSD licenses free.

https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#ModifiedBSD

https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#clearbsd

https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#FreeBSD

The ORIGINAL BSD LICENSE with advertising clause is free, but not GPL compatible:

https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#OriginalBSD

I hope this clarifies things.

The FSF's concerns are that since the permissive licenses are not copyleft, there's no guarantee that they will remain free. Companies like to take permissively licensed code and make nonfree forks all the time. It's what went on with OS X. The FSF's position is that they aren't in the business of giving handouts to companies that want to take what they can and give nothing back. They have never said that permissive licenses are not free. If you can cite where they have, please link to that. :)
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
Wikipedia would definitely be a good choice; so would Perl and Python.
posted by [Old Forum mithrandir] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
Good suggestions so far, and i'm going to +1 for Diasporafoundation. The effort needs to keep going. Decentralized, federated web ftw.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
Here is my top 4 (focused on privacy) :
  • Mozilla
  • Wikipedia
  • TOR
  • and the why not the Diasporaproject ? :)
posted by [Old Forum valentin] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
Wikipedia keeps on asking money, maybe they oughta replace the pleading add with addwords?
Mozilla's getting crappier.
Diaspora recently sent a letter saying we love you, give us money. Whaa? Wasn't it gonna be free? Kinda wikipedaish. Seems like that project's never gonna see the light of day.

TOR is a fine candidate for those 10% imho.
So is OpenSSH.
LUKS maybe?
EFF? GNU?

So are some distros like Debian or OpenBSD.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
I think donating money is not always the best way to help open source projects. Most of the time they need developer time and general public attention more than money (yes I know you can buy them).

BUT, if I where to donate money, I would definitely go to PyPy progress to support Python 3, they have made an incredibly amazing (and huge) work to improve the performance of the Python interpreter (while the official CPython is already damn fast), and unlike some other projects they have clearly stated and planned how they would use the money to progress.
posted by [Old Forum eet-fuk] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
Most of them use the cash to pay hosting, personal bills or put bounties on bugs/feature requests. It is a way of giving back after we have taken so much and allows them to hack full-time or more than they normally would have out of the goodness of their hearts. It actually helps a lot.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
The fact that ReactOS is going nowhere has little to do with funding. It has more to do with the proprietary and undocumented and/or incorrectly documented nature of Windows, which they are attempting to clone.

POSIX is easy enough to implement that there are literally dozens of operating systems with decent compliance, even Mac OS X.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
OpenBSD/OpenSSH
Perl
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
Regarding support for ReactOS and Wine I think it is a wrong signal to use a FOSS donation for software with the sole purpose of running nonfree Windows binaries in a GNU/Linux or similar environment.

I second David's thoughts regarding Mozilla. They get a huge part of their funding from Google and do not even put DDG in as a default search engine. I'm happy that they have money to continue their work (even though I personally don't want Google in my life) but a donation from DDG does not make much sense in this situation.

I said TOR project before but would also support the mentioned Perl and OpenSSH.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
I totally agree with you about Wine/non-free software and Mozilla/Google.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
I vote Trisquel GNU/Linux, a 100% Free (as in Freedom) Ubuntu-based GNU/Linux distribution.

There are hundreds of GNU/Linux distributions, but only 9 of these are free. The world needs Freedom!
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous

DuckDuckGo is coded in Perl and JavaScript with help of YUI, served via nginxFastCGI and memcached, running on FreeBSD and Ubuntu via daemontools.  We both run our own servers and have servers on EC2.  We use PostgreSQL+bucardo, CDB, Solr, BerkelyDB, S3 and flat files for data.  We monitor via Server Density, our own scripts and DNSMadeEasy (which we also use for DNS and failover).  Finally, we have some side components that use prosodyDebian, ejabberd,jQuery, node, python and even more Perl with lots of CPAN Distributions.  Also check out this architecture post, which is somewhat out of date but largely accurate.
Hmm, so why don't you support Perl, nginx, postgresql, python, debian or other tools used by DDG?
This is quite common in IT: people support what they use.

posted by [Old Forum makronized] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
Good idea, but it would be important to balance it with donations to other projects that would produce correlated benefit.
Maybe more than 90% of FOSS employed by entities capable of donating is a web server, a database server, a programing language, and that's it! BUT these projects might not represent not more than 1/3 (I'm beeing conservative!) of FOSS software. Imagine all other FOSS software making up for the infra-structure envolved in a DDG business.

Good ideia of yours! I agree with you, but maybe 50%? The other half, make a voting on the web (FOSS solution!), and we can transparently give our opinnion.

Regards!
posted by [Old Forum jonerworm] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
Last year the FOSS donations were half things that DuckDuckGo uses and half suggestions from the community.

Moderator
posted by [Old Forum agreenearth] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
I'd like to nominate Diaspora* and Identi.ca
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
I'd support Piwik, an open source alternative to Google Analytics.
While this is not strictly inherent to privacy and security, its usage will prevent developers and users from giving stats to Google for "free".

posted by [Old Forum makronized] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
+1 for:
  • TOR
  • FSFE
posted by [Old Forum babarv] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
PLEASE!!!!          MAKE IT TRANSPARENT AND ORGANISED, OR ELSE WHAT'S THE POINT IN POSTING UNACCOUNTABLE (Guests) REQUESTS FOR DONATIONS?

Use some voting service (FOSS, plz)

MAIN POINT SEEMS TO ME:

I) Would DDG like to set apart something to donate for mission critical software? 100%? How much?

DDG employed: Debian, Perl, Python (PyPy?), ngnix, postgresql

II) Others so far: - if any $ left after DDG decide on slice of donation to be made in item I)

  1. Clipperz
  2. CyanogenMod
  3. Diaspora
  4. Identi.ca (Status.net?)
  5. EFF
  6. dasycha.in
  7. friendica
  8. FSF
  9. FSFE
  10. I2P
  11. Linux Foundation
  12. Linux Mint
  13. LuaJIT
  14. LUKS
  15. Miro
  16. Mozilla
  17. NetBSD
  18. NoScript
  19. OMV
  20. OneSwarm
  21. OwnCloud
  22. OpenBSD
  23. OpenSSH
  24. Piwik
  25. ReactOS
  26. sparkleshare
  27. TAILS
  28. tcplay
  29. Tor
  30. Trisquel
  31. TrueCrypt
  32. Unhosted
  33. Wikipedia
  34. Wine
  35. YaCY
Sorry, if I missed any item!
posted by [Old Forum jonerworm] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
ALSO VERY IMPORTANT:

DDG should define its understanding of "FOSS": FSF+OSI??? Or any other sensu lato?

Sensu Stricto:
  • Free Software = GNU/Free Software Foundation
  • Open Source = Open Source Initiative
posted by [Old Forum jonerworm] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
yegg
We will be donating our allotment to stuff we use. This piece (that this discussion is based off of) doesn't have to directly relate to what we use, though I think it would be good to relate us generally, e.g. privacy, search, etc.
posted by yegg Staff6 years and 4 months ago Link
yegg
Open to suggestion, but my thought would be take sort of an open approach here and include anything open source or that which supports open source initiatives (like the EFF)  even though they may not be themselves producing OSS.
posted by yegg Staff6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
Status.net is the open source program behind Identi.ca. Of the two, you want to donate to Status.net.

Moderator
posted by [Old Forum agreenearth] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
People, the big names have already enough money and visibility to get donations, let's choose something smaller as noted in the previous year's donation thread...

I don't know many, I actually didn't think of it when I first read this topic but I'd suggest Dabr.
posted by [Old Forum rafaelluik] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
yegg
Yes, agree. We have limited funds, it would be good to do things that actually made a big difference or at least had the potential for significant ROI.
posted by yegg Staff6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
Sorry for not forking last year's topic earlier - Yegg beat me to it.

Moderator
posted by [Old Forum agreenearth] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
TrueCrypt except if they are seen as too big...
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
Just to say - that was me above, did not realise I am posting as a guest., ie TrueCrypt.
posted by [Old Forum onefootinthegrave] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
There have been some concerns made about the identity of the TrueCrypt authors. The licensing of the program is also controversial.
posted by [Old Forum mithrandir] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
The Bitcoin and i2p devs use pseudonyms too. It's part of their (crypto) culture that goes back to the CypherPunks mailing list in the late 80s. "Frank" in the wiki entry is not a notable source, and wrong on so many counts. Like CIA instead of NSA. That's not the CIA's style. NSA would just attack the thing (side channels, timing, etc) not backdoor it. That's a bit outside the scope of discussion here... I digress.

Licensing is not that big of a deal for others like Mandriva or Gentoo (whom arguably pour over the code more than most) PCBSD etc etc.

I will withdraw my initial nomination for them since many seem to take exception with their development style.

How about something a little less contentious like Midori then? We support an underdog (err... under cat?) and feed back into DDG's revenue stream at the same time because they're a browser and they also have DDG in their default lists. Win/win for everyone.
--
David Pierce
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
Just to say thanks to those that nominated Clipperz!

I just would like to add that if we get any money we will use it not just to improve our password manager, but also to release a better, richer and more flexible Javascript Crypto Library
Our goal is to make it easier for FOSS projects to use robust cryptographic algorithms in their Javascript code. 
For this same reason we are also considering applying a more liberal license than AGPL to the library.
Any input on this matter is welcome.

Thanks again, 
Marco

PS
Btw, I really do like the DuckDuckGo privacy policy! :-)
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
Just to say that the comment above is from me: Marco Barulli, co-founder of Clipperz.
I'm happy to provide any further details on our plans for Clipperz.
And you can reach me here: marco at clipperz dot com.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
hello marco, mind if i ask a question about your project?

how would a sane person ever want to store passwords in "the cloud"?

i'm not trying to offend you and i'm not trolling, it's just that the idea seems completely absurd to me, so i seriously ask me (and you) this question. the js crypto library sounds interesting btw.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
I'm not taking any offense. :-)

Clipperz is a strange beast, a self-proclaimed "zero-knowledge web app" (others prefer to use the term "host-proof app"). It just means that Clipperz knows nothing about its users and their data.  Not even their usernames!
And this result can be achieved thanks to browser cryptography, i.e. the ability of any Javascript-enabled browser to perform cryptographic computation with decent speed and no hassle for the user.

A rough description of this paradigm can be found here: "Anatomy of zero-knowledge web application".
You may also be interested in this quite old blog post: "Freedom and privacy in the cloud: a call for action".

Clipper is offering its online password manager service since 2007. We are currently storing almost a million passwords. Never had a single problem.

And if you don't trust our service (quite acceptable) you can run your own private instance of Clipperz on your own server by installing the AGPL licensed Community Edition
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
clipperz
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
I agree, given that the founder took the time to actually come to a comment thread and explain his service/thank those users who'd already promoted it and seems quite easily accessible, Clipperz is a good idea, especially if a more liberal license it applied! :)
posted by [Old Forum scepticrail] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
i thnk  you guys shold consider these ones reactos http://www.reactos.org/en/foundation_donate.html , linux mint http://linuxmint.com/donors.php , libreoffice - http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/donate/

posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
I would like to see some money donated to the following:

Libreoffice
Gnu Free Call/Ekiga or other Skype alternative that is open source
VLC Media Player

posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
i would like to see these


reactos
Libreoffice
Jitsi/Ekiga or other Skype alternative that is open source
VLC Media Player
posted by [Old Forum dgmurdockiii] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
My top picks are:
  • Wikipedia
  • Identi.ca ( or Status.net)
  • Midori ( It introduced me to DDG, need I say more? Support this little browser.)
  • Abiword
  • VLC
  • FreeBSD ( because BSD is Linux's poor cousin that never gets nearly the attention and support it deserves) 

The reason I didn't list projects like Mozilla and the Linux Foundation is because I think they already get enough funding, and thus it wouldn't make that much of a difference. Supporting smaller projects with less funding could make a bigger difference for them.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
I am reluctant to give a thumbs up for http://www.reactos.org/ because there is a real danger that in near future MS guys may KO the project stating that  they have infringed about this and that and what not
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
There is no real nor imminent danger in Microsoft taking them on. That would be a disaster and EFF would be all over it. Stop spreading FUD. Besides, even if there were, more the reason to arm their war chest.

--
Pierce
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
Regarding ReactOS, their sole purpose is to free people from the Microsoft Windows prison by constructing an identical prison for them to run nonfree Windows software and nonfree Windows drivers on.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
The point being that it's an open source environment. There are open-source Windows programs too, y'know, if necessary. As for drivers, yeah, sadly they would be, but they can be even on Linux (see: ATI/Nvidia drivers).

My vote goes for ReactOS.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
reactos!
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
  • OpenSSH
  • Freenet
  • EFF
  • Perl
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
Gnome!
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
I think it would be nice to spend a bit of that money sponsoring meaningful but smaller, one man projects like the improval of SBCL's threading by Nikodemus.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
I would much like a donation to the Wikimedia Foundation. Wikipedia is easily the largest volunteer-run project on the internet, with far more man-hours put into it than the Linux kernel for instance.

There are several changes being made to Wikimedia infrastructure. One of the problems is how slow the service is in Asia for instance. In Indonesia, it can take even 30 seconds to get a change edited in in an article.

Imagine your life without Wikipedia. It's an integral part of the internet and this is reflected nowhere better than in the DuckDuckGo search engine where the box at the top almost always has an enwiki link. And wikis are huge in general, with most websites running on the Wikimedia-developed (but open source, naturally) MediaWiki, including the notable Wikia which is a commercial venture by Jimmy Wales.

Such a donation would definitely help with popularity among Wikipedians (and others, like Wiktionary which is what I mostly contribute to) who are very ethics-conscious among other thing and would certainly increase uptake of both DDG amongst the community but also FOSS, because the WM Foundation has done lots of work for it and continues to do so.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
I am of the idea of investing into an alternative to JAVA since its use is being restricted due to a change in the licence from what I hear. This alternative is openJDK which is the open-source version of Java.

I do not think donating money to individual distributions is a good investment since there are so many. Who do you donate to? Who is more worthy than the next distro.? Also I do not understand why some people still hanker about Wind compatibility. Linux is Linux and there is enough compatibility in most areas thanks to Linux application developers. If people are interested in PC  games they should get a Wind machine however for everything else use Linux. We do not need a Wind clone, Linux related developers should be innovation.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
Every nomination should receive money, they are all great and important! :)

I nominate www.universalsubtitles.org

Cheers
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
I nominate Openvista.  Im not sure how much has been donated but its a pretty big project but not as popular.  Its hospital software/clinic.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
I was thinking it would be most useful to help a project that is not a downstream. What would be very useful for all platforms is a very high quality open source office suite. So how about the funding heads towards Libreoffice and the Document Foundation?

http://www.libreoffice.org/
http://www.documentfoundation.org/
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
Hello,

I will go for the following :
  1. Tor
  2. Diaspora / Status.net
  3. Perl

Thus, taking care of both security, privacy and stand alone bits of networks solutions, plus the programing language that's behind Duck Duck Go !

posted by [Old Forum omnireso] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
I would like to nominate FreeBSD Foundation (http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/). FreeBSD Foundation is the organization that supports the developer and development for FreeBSD related activities. An excerpt from the web site :


 

The FreeBSD Foundation will support both the development and the popularization of FreeBSD, the world's best open source operating system. Here are some of the projects that the Foundation can and will support in the future:

  • Development of software for FreeBSD to benefit the user and developer community, including contract development of critical system infrastructure, porting of closed source applications such as Java(TM).
  • Obtaining computers and other equipment for developers to use toward improving FreeBSD, such as the network performance cluster, FreeBSD.org cluster, and personal development systems for developers.
  • Providing additional Internet infrastructure to aid in the development and distribution of FreeBSD.
  • Support developer communication and coordination, including financial support for developer summits and developer travel.
  • Encouraging the formation of FreeBSD user groups.
  • Cultivating press coverage and advertising the utility and availability of FreeBSD.


posted by [Old Forum psybermonkey] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
Until we can purchase entirely open platforms we are vulnerable to control, coercion, and security threats we cannot counter because they are built into the infrastructure beneath our projects.  Therefore I nominate:

1) launch or support viable open hardware projects
2) coreboot  (http://www.coreboot.org/Welcome_to_coreboot)
3) Spark  (http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2012/01/reveal.html)

Most, if not every single project mentioned above is built on these lower layers.  Our security, our livelihoods, the very option of running alternate projects depend on these few things.  They are too important to continue ignoring.  As attacks on our freedoms creep lower and lower into our machines (ie- locked BIOS code, UEFI, etc) and we must build alternate infrastructure and develop sources to fuel these devices of freedom, lest we lose our free culture entirely.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
ReactOS

It would be great if they finally get some funding because they are working really hard with very little resources. Also it would be nice to have a windows like free operating system with a centralized softwarecenter ;) To speed up their work I would donate it to the ReactOS Project.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
I vote for Tor because as governments, even democratic ones, become more and more intrusive and surveillance the norm, privacy should be one of our main concerns.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
Ugh, discussions like these don't allow me to lurk properly.

I recommend Tor.

I would not like to see donations go to Diaspora.

I don't think I can +1 Tor and -1 Diaspora, but I'd like to.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
ReactOS, it's come leaps and bounds lately and if it got more funding it could go even further.
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
posted by [Old Forum justin.jquery3] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
I thought I could make a chart to help illustrate to everyone what is nominated and how many votes it has.


But that one is kind of confusing, so I took out all of the nominations with only one vote.


It can still be a little confusing, but that comes with so many suggestions.
I hope I didn't mess up to badly in recording the data.
posted by [Old Forum bee.keeper] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
don't take it personally, but that chart is pretty useless. there were a lot of guest comments nominating things, and other people will not have posted anything, because their favourites were already nominated by somebody else. how do we know the reactos-postings were not all done by the same person, for example?
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
True, there are a lot of guests posting, and nobody knows if they are the same person. Plus one can always create multiple user accounts, if they really wanted to. So, I want to expand on your comment, guest, and ask a question to who ever knows the answer. How will DDG decide who the community wants to donate to?
posted by [Old Forum bee.keeper] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
yegg
Like last year, we are taking the nominations as suggestions. We would like to concentrate on a theme, and also donate to places where our donation would really make a difference (bang for the buck). Any suggestions that would help us organize around these lines would be greatly appreciated.
posted by yegg Staff6 years and 3 months ago Link
anonymous
I think the forum platform may allow moderators to check users' IPs or something like that?

About how DDG will decide...
Well, I think this thread is like suggestions we're making to inspire them and in the end they'll choose some from the suggestions, some not posted here that they already know, maybe related to privacy, etc. If it works that way it's fine.
posted by [Old Forum rafaelluik] • 6 years and 3 months ago Link
yegg
Donations made! Check out the details at: http://ye.gg/foss2011

Thank you all for contributing to such a great thread.
posted by yegg Staff6 years and 2 months ago Link
anonymous
Nice, I see Freenet wasn't forgotten even though surprisingly nobody mentioned it in this thread

I'm also discovering Unhosted and Friendica. Interesting stuff. :)
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 6 years and 2 months ago Link
anonymous
Looks like my previous comment got eaten by some piece of Javascript... and anyway I had yet again forgotten to log in (again, without even realizing it).

Anyway, all I was saying was I'm glad to see Freenet wasn't forgotten, as strangely enough it wasn't mentioned here along Tor, I2P and such.
posted by [Old Forum patheticcockroach] • 6 years and 2 months ago Link
anonymous

Not mentioned, right?
posted by [Old Forum scepticrail] • 6 years and 2 months ago Link
anonymous
Oh, well spotted. I guess I missed it then ^^ Still, mentioned not as much as I2P (yeah, this time I did a text search on the thread )
posted by [Old Forum patheticcockroach] • 6 years and 1 month ago Link
anonymous
Any plans on repeating this for 2012 profits? 
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 5 years and 4 months ago Link
yegg
Yes indeed -- no profits to speak of, but we'll make similar donations for 2012 for sure. I'll post a new thread to take suggestions ASAP -- probably tomorrow. Look for it!
posted by yegg Staff5 years and 4 months ago Link
yegg
posted by yegg Staff5 years and 4 months ago Link
anonymous
This thread's existence means I am using DDG for more than a year :)
posted by [Old Forum guest] • 5 years and 4 months ago Link
dashesy
And that was me. When can we see the new forum take off?
posted by dashesy 5 years and 4 months ago Link
crazedpsyc
As soon as it's ready. 
Working on adding some more features (RSS feed, email notifications, etc.) and implementing the design, then we can move over. Any help appreciated 
posted by crazedpsyc 5 years and 4 months ago Link
dashesy
Glad to hear that is in progress, I hope for a larger and more vibrant user base, perhaps a forum to discuss different topics (DDG, plugins, SDK, ...) will attract more users.

I will be more than happy to help.
Although my expertise does not include web (let alone web2) I can help with C++/C or its variants, I can also test for sure.

posted by dashesy 5 years and 4 months ago Link
crazedpsyc
The forum (and the rest of the platform) are written in Perl, which isn't really that hard to grasp coming from C if you are interested. https://github.com/duckduckgo/community-platform
posted by crazedpsyc 5 years and 4 months ago Link