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a reply to a comment on the General Rambling I'm Back and I'm Pleading for a New Design 2 years and 5 months ago
Yes, I was worried about that. Also, the design you linked to is pretty good looking. I would love it if DDG adopted it even if they didn't do a radical redesign.
a reply to a comment on the General Rambling I'm Back and I'm Pleading for a New Design 2 years and 5 months ago
Yes, I agree that my design is a bit overly complicated and I'm certainly open to improving it. Do you have any suggestions on how to get to the same place, but with better looking design? I would love to redo a bit of it.
a comment on the General Rambling I'm Back and I'm Pleading for a New Design 2 years and 5 months ago
Dear forum members, community leaders and, especially, staff members:

I'd like to advocate for a better design and I'm really serious here. DuckDuckGo is awesome and there design looks good but there are some pretty basic things that need improvement, in my opinion. Please, disagree but I need you to read my post and take into account everything I say. I want DDG to be the best it can be so, if you're a staff member, please understand that any put downs I may make of your design comes from my love for your project.


What is DuckDuckGo? What defines it? There are probably two or three main things:
1. It doesn't track you. There's nothing we can do to make that better because the DDG staff have already done such a darn good job.
2. It has instant answers. Search engines like AltaVista made the internet better by returning relevant documents. Google made search better by showing the most relevant documents at the top. DuckDuckGo has made search better by showing the direct answers to your questions (plus results).
3. It's easy to use and looks good. Seriously, DuckDuckGo looks awesome. It's got the best home page, it's got the best logo (seriously, a duck! How much better can you get?) and it's got a really awesome privacy policy and about page.

So, let's get going. First off, let's try DuckDuckGo out on an easy search: "duckduckgo."

[http://snag.gy/2lMmL.jpg]

Good. I've got the information I want. The website is there (I'm already on it), the Wikipedia page is there and a few other things. Most importantly, there's an Instant Answer at the top showing an excerpt from the Wikipedia page ("DuckDuckGo is an Internet search engine that emphasizes protecting searchers' privacy and avoiding the filter bubble of personalized search results. DuckDuckGo distinguishes itself from other search engines …") it's logo and some basic info about it.

First, note that the screen looks a bit crowded. This is easily remedied and isn't a particularly big problem. However, the page does feel a bit to messy and like there's too much going on.

The information that we have above the fold line includes DDG's official website, the Wikipedia article, an ad from Amazon and a CNET download.

Now, let's look at Google's search page.

[http://snag.gy/L8HHK.jpg]

Note that the Wikipedia article result was below the fold line but I included it just to show something else.

Google also has the official website at the top. However, it goes further and provides jumping off points into the website, main pages that it thinks will be useful (by the way, I captured this in Private Browsing so it's not influenced by my previous searches). On the right hand side, it has a box containing information about DuckDuckGo (pretty much the same stuff in the About box on DDG's page, though a bit less). Finally, it includes DDG's Twitter and LinkedIn profiles, an extra touch.

Near the bottom of the page, you see DuckDuckGo's Twitter (much more useful than a CNET download). Right beneath it is DDG's latest blog post (which is, BTW, actually @duckduckgo's latest tweet).

In my opinion, Google has won this round. All the information it's got is relevant and purely related/endorsed/about DuckDuckGo. It looks kind of nice (though Google always looks a bit too formulaic, a mistake DuckDuckGo has thankfully avoided). However, DuckDuckGo was really close behind. DDG has a bit extra info from Wikipedia. Unfortunately the IA box is a bit too dark so your eyes naturally glaze over it, not noticing or immediately comprehending the text inside. (Google is just as bad. It's got it's box out of the way on the right.)

The point I'm trying to make is that Google has fit in a lot of useful information into their page, using a larger font size. DuckDuckGo has some more information to be added to the page and that's cool. You'll notice that Google's design has still more space to add more info. Obviously, there's an opportunity for more stuff and the crucial info can be put in before the fold line.

So, let's stop comparing it with Google. Let's do something you can only do on DuckDuckGo: click the "Show More" button.

The "Show More" button in the About IA is pretty promising. It gives the impression that we can see more immediately without having to wait for a page to load and going to a completely different view. Yet all it does is finish the paragraph! It doesn't even finish the introduction! It would be incredibly easy (meaning 1-12 lines of code more easy) to make it show all of the Wikipedia entry or even just the intro).

[http://snag.gy/qzAPi.jpg]

There are a couple more problems with the IA ribbon (or at least I think that's what it's called). First, you only see one IA at a time and they're usually small. Seriously, the IAs are the main thing about DDG search. They should be given as much space as they can and it should show as many as possible in the initial view. Also, the IA ribbon is a bit too dark and the text too light (and also the look a bit generic) so one's eyes often glaze over it to the results below.

Instant Answers are the future of search. We need to give them more space and let them shine. Please, listen to my cries. I'm am a longtime user of DuckDuckGo, I know how to program, I've created my own websites and I know good design. If it weren't for DuckDuckGo's privacy and startup nature, I'd be using Google. IAs seriously need to be useful, not just an addon at the top showing a preview of what the results show below.

With that in mind, I spent two days and much of my valuable school time creating a mock up of a possible redesign for the DuckDuckGo search page. It includes many of the suggestions I've made and is intended to prove that more information can be fit into the page with good design. Please understand that this is not the only way and that any mistakes I made in the design should not be used to make my entire argument invalid. I hope that you are inspired by what you see and that you begin to see DuckDuckGo's future the same way I have.

So this is what I created:
[http://snag.gy/1LE0A.jpg]

Please, I want to start a discussion here. To the members of this forum: show your support or tell me I'm wrong, just don't glance over this post and do nothing. To the community leaders: tell the staff about this, if you can, show your support or tell me I'm wrong. To the staff: Please respond. Tell me if I'm wrong, argue with me, do what you want, but please don't ignore this. And finally to everyone: help me improve my design. Make it better or suggest alternative ways of doing what we all want to achieve.

I am dedicated to seeing a new design on DuckDuckGo, a design that shows more information and is more useful to the user. If you would like to contact me personally, you can follow @thegoodsite on Twitter (which is my organization's Twitter handle) and I can send you an email address.

This is it. It's time to move DuckDuckGo forward the other half step.

Cheers,
MyUser
a reply to a comment on the General Rambling Lack of African countries in region settings 2 years and 5 months ago
+1. However, I have a quick solution for you.

If you know the domain ending for the country you're searching in (eg. .ca for Canada, .us for the United States, .uk for the UK) then you can add " site:.tld" replacing "tld" with the country domain ending.

Hoping for a direct response from the DDG staff!

Cheers,
MyUser
a reply to a comment on the General Rambling do i have to pay to get back 2 years and 5 months ago
Hi there,

Just to be clear, I'm not affiliated with DDG or the community leaders here. However, I'd just like to quickly parse what Zac has said (though if I'm incorrect, please correct me):

I'm guessing there is no way for DDG staff to track password changes nor find out what the current password is. Having created login and user systems myself before, I know how secure systems like this are often impenetrable even for the admins. The passwords are likely to be hashed so they cannot be retrieved and a password change just changes the password with out recording previous versions (or their hashes) and without recording that there was a change.

The other thing to note is that DuckDuckGo and likely duck.co as well do not track you. That means that the duck.co team will probably not be able to go back into the logs to check if a password was changed as those logs do not exist.

I understand what you're going through as I've gone through it myself. However, please be careful about repeatedly posting here as it will be labelled as spam.

Do you have any private information in your previous account? Other than the inconvenience of using a new account and copying your data into it, is there anything preventing you from just switching? Have you seen any activity from your previous account that you have not initiated other than the password change? Finally, do you believe your old password to be sufficiently complicated (eg. longer than ten characters, containing a combination of letters, numbers or punctuation)? Please, do not give me your password.

I will be unavailable to talk to for anywhere from twelve hours to two days so please don't make multiple replies during my absence (I'm sort of drifting between chatting on the duck.co forums and not).

Hope you get your account back,
Sincerely,
MyUser
a reply to a comment on the General Rambling Answers from within a time-frame 2 years and 5 months ago
Hi there! Great that you're using DuckDuckGo.

Your question (or variants of it) is the most asked question on duck.co. And no, DuckDuckGo really doesn't have any date functions or features. You can find out more about that here: https://duck.co/help/features/dates

You know actually, that page is pretty useless. So let me give you a rundown of what I've picked up while on the forums here:
- If you want to sort results by date, you can use the sort:date function. Just at " sort:date" to the end of your search.
- Dates are not a priority for the DDG staff (which is a shame because it is literally the most asked for feature on these forums). The reason is mostly because of how DDG collects and returns it's results which makes it difficult for it to get date data. (You'll notice that sort:date doesn't have the best ever results.)
- There are no functions for date ranges. You'll have to use Google, Bing or another search engine for that.
- There's a news IA for if you search for a recent news article. You'll see the "News" tab in the IA banner (or whatever it's called).

Anyway, to answer your question, no there is no function and no, there won't be that function anytime soon (unless the DDG staff are keeping awful quite and want to surprise us with it; we can all hold out hope!).

I'd recommend you use DDG for your regular searches then use one of the bangs suggested in that help article I linked to whenever you need to do a date search.

Cheers,
MyUser
a reply to a comment on the token We don't track you. in the domain DuckDuckGo.com for the language Pirate 2 years and 5 months ago
+1. Good idea.
a reply to a comment on the General Rambling One time locale setting for search 2 years and 5 months ago
Agreed. Pretty much all websites seem to go between function (a large icon with a big label) and form (a small icon that looks cool and no one notices). DDG's doing pretty good though.
a reply to a comment on the General Rambling Email 2 years and 8 months ago
Thanks for the suggestions. I found a one-time solution, but I'll have to check out those others for a more permanent one.
a reply to a comment on the General Rambling Email 2 years and 8 months ago
Cost mostly.
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