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a reply to a comment on the Instant Answer Idea Hiking and climbing spots near a location 3 years and 7 months ago
That looks great! I posted a wall of text to Brendan's post. All of my ideas for the climbing data instant answers would apply to the hiking IA too since it's the same type of data.
a reply to a comment on the Instant Answer Idea Hiking and climbing spots near a location 3 years and 7 months ago
The second type we could so is a longtail. The good thing is that once you have a scraper for a fathead, it's very easy to just change the format of the output file to fit a longtail.

I think this is going to be a more interesting IA to make. We don't currently support geo search or maps but I think with some work on my end I could make that happen.

The interesting part of the longtail is that we can handle more complex searches like the ones Brendan listed:
"best climbing crags in queensland"
"best boulder problems near london"

It will also handle more complicated name searches like "salathe wall yosemite" which wouldn't match an exact key in the fathead. We could also do location searches like "climbing near me".

Other queries like "the least climbed grade 18 trad routes on dolerite in tasmania" will still be much harder though.


Hope that helps!

TDLR; This sounds like a really neat IA, I'd start with a fathead for now. Please let me know if you have any questions
a reply to a comment on the Instant Answer Idea Hiking and climbing spots near a location 3 years and 7 months ago
I see two potential instant answers from here. The easiest to get started with would be a fathead. fathead

Fatheads are basically key->value data. So your search term has to match the key with a few optional trigger words we can add on. This might be good for searching for exact route/crag names.

A query like "salathe climb" or "salathe wall" would trigger info that came from this page http://www.thecrag.com/climbing/united-states/yosemite-national-park/route/20684875 It could then show a list of data (pitches, rating, FA .. ) or maybe a longer description.

Here's an example of a fathead that shows data in a list format like that: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=python+numpy&t=canonical&ia=about

We also have the option of showing a small image on the left side of the text. Similar to the wikipedia IA: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=shawangunks&ia=about

No maps or geo search from a fathead though. I don't really see an easy way for that to work.
a reply to a comment on the Instant Answer Idea Hiking and climbing spots near a location 3 years and 7 months ago
Hey Brendan, thanks for offering to help out!

Floey, this isn't really a spice IA but hopefully you're still interested in working on it? I'm happy to answer any question you might have if you want to try a fathead or longtail.

For both IA you pretty much just create a scraper and grab all the relevant data from each page. Then use that to build a output file. The formats are a little different between the two types.
a reply to a comment on the Instant Answer Idea Hiking and climbing spots near a location 3 years and 7 months ago
Good news! I heard back from theCrag and they even offered to help out with the development. I sent them the link to this post so we can discuss the technical details over here.
a reply to a comment on the Instant Answer Idea Hiking and climbing spots near a location 3 years and 7 months ago
Sorry for the delay. I was looking into getting us access to another api which might still work out. I'll email theCraig today though.
a reply to a comment on the Instant Answer Idea Hiking and climbing spots near a location 3 years and 7 months ago
Is there a JSON api somewhere that has this data?

If there isn't an api this could still work as a longtail instant answer. Basically crawl the site and build a list of trail heads and their coordinates. I don't think anyone has ever tried showing a map from a longtail but I think it could work and I'm happy to help out if you or anyone else want to try it.
a reply to a comment on the Instant Answer Idea Hiking and climbing spots near a location 3 years and 7 months ago
That looks like a really interesting source. I've never hear of them before but it looks like they have pretty good data on the climbing spots I checked. I'll look into getting an api key.
a comment on the Instant Answer Idea Hiking and climbing spots near a location 3 years and 7 months ago
It's a great idea!

That source sems like it's okay for Spain? (never climbed there) Looks like it's missing a lot of other popular european climbing spots though.

I emailed mountainproject a while ago and asked if they could create an api but never heard back. I know they also do bike trails which would be another good source to have. Maybe it's time to bug them again :)

For European climbing maybe it's worth looking for or asking 8a.nu for an api?
a reply to a comment on the General Rambling google news !bang 3 years and 8 months ago
Can you give an example of the full url it takes you to?

Have you tried this recently? We made a fix to the google news bangs a few days ago and I'm wondering if you problem is related.
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